Comey said during a wide-ranging interview at Politicon... - 4:11 AM 10/27/2019 | Trump Impeachment News

THANK YOU.
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
AND WE RETURNED TO THE POLITICON CONFERENCE IN NASHVILLE. SPEAKING NOW, FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY AND FORMER WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR...
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DO IT WITHOUT EMBARRASSING HIM, AND EMBARRASSING ME, WITHOUT CREATING A WAR IN THE FBI WAS FRONT AND CENTER IN MY MIND, SO THAT IS WHY I WAS A LITTLE DISTRACTED. THE...
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LIKE WHAT?
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I EXPLAINED TO HIM WITHOUT USING ANY OF THE TERMS YOU USED, BUT TO EXPLAIN TO HIM THE NATURE OF THIS INFORMATION, WHY WE WERE TELLING HIM, AND THAT PROVOKED...
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19 OF THEM.
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I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WENT THROUGH 19, BUT HE WENT THROUGH ONE AFTER ANOTHER. IT WAS A WOMAN ON A PLAN, A WOMAN HERE AND HERE, AND I THINK HE SAID, DO I...
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I'M GLAD HE -- WHICH I ASSUMED WAS RHETORICAL, SO I DID NOT ANSWER.
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I'M GLAD HE DID NOT ASK ME.
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IT WAS GOING OFF THE RAILS, SO I PULLED OUT -- AND THE RHETORICAL SENSE -- SO I REDUCED THE TEMPERATURE BY SAYING, LOOK, WE ARE NOT INVESTIGATING YOU. WHICH...
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THAT STORY IS SO IMPORTANT IN MY ATTEMPT TO UNDERSTAND HIS WAR AGAINST LAW ENFORCEMENT AND NOW IT APPEARS THE WAR THAT ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR HAS ORGANIZED. I...
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I CANNOT SAY WHETHER IN HIS HEAD HIS THINKING ABOUT THOSE CHANGED. I HAVE SEEN NO INDICATION HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO LET GO OF THIS INDICATION THAT HE SEES...
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ARE YOU SURPRISED HE NOW HAS AN ALLY IN THE EFFORT TO ATTACK THE ORGANIZATION IN WILLIAM BARR , WHO SEEMS VERY COMFORTABLE MEDDLING IN THE INVESTIGATION BEING...
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I CAN'T TELL WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THAT INVESTIGATION. I WAS DEEPLY CONCERNED I SOME THINGS HE SAID EARLY ON ABOUT USING THE WORD...
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ONE OF THE THINGS THAT LEAKED OUT ABOUT THAT INVESTIGATION, AND I WONDER IF YOU THINK MR. DURHAM HAS AN OBLIGATION TO CLARIFY THIS, IS IT IS CRIMINAL IN...
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I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK OF THAT. FIRST, IS IT TRUE AT ALL? THERE IS ALL KINDS OF STUFF PUSHED OUT OF THIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT BY ANONYMOUS PEOPLE WHICH...
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I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT CLEARING UP -- ABOUT BOB MUELLER. HIS INVESTIGATION CAPTURES THE ATTENTION AND IMAGINATION ACROSS THE IDEOLOGICAL SECTOR FOR DIFFERENT...
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YES AND NO. YES IN THE SENSE THAT USING REALLY TALENTED PEOPLE, HE RAN TO GROUND THE NATURE AND EXTENT OF THE RUSSIAN ATTACK. HE LAID IT OUT IN GREAT DETAIL IN...
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I WOULD NOT CALL THEM THOUGHTFUL, BUT DONALD TRUMP AND HIS FOLLOWERS GOT ENOUGH OF A MUDDY PICTURE FROM MUELLER. MAYBE THIS IS MY BIAS. YOU ARE A RARE...
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THAT IS THE NO PART OF MY ANSWER. YES, HE DID A GREAT PIECE OF WORK, BUT NO, HE DID NOT SUCCEED IN HIS MISSION BECAUSE THERE WAS INADEQUATE TRANSPARENCY...
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I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WAY. I FEEL THAT WE HAVING COVERED IT AND NEVER GETTING OVER THE EXASPERATION THAT THE THINGS BOB MUELLER DID TO PROTECT...
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I'M NOT SURE IMPEACHMENT IS THE REMEDY FOR OUR FAILURE AS AN AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT BOB MUELLER FOUND, BUT I DO THINK IN PART IT IS INCUMBENT...
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DO YOU THINK THAT MUELLER, PEOPLE ON HIS TEAM, EXPECTED THAT REPORT TO TRIGGER AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY?
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I DO. I THINK THEY MAKE CLEAR THAT THEY ARE LAYING OUT THE OBSTRUCTION PATTERN FOR TWO REASONS. FIRST, FOR FUTURE PROSECUTORS. ACTUALLY, ESSENTIALLY THEY...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I THINK THAT BILL BARR, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO DID THAT, PUT HIS FINGER ON THE SCALE BEFORE, AFTER, AND DURING THE RELEASE OF THE MUELLER REPORT, WERE...
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I DID. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS ABOUT ROD ROSENSTEIN'S INVOLVEMENT. MAYBE SOMEDAY SOMEONE WILL ANSWER IT. THE FIRST, WHAT WAS HE DOING INVOLVED AT ALL SINCE...
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I WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT HERE TO PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER. DO YOU WORRY THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN COMPROMISED OR CORRUPTED AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL?
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I WORRY THAT ITS REPUTATION FOR STANDING APART -- JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, BUT CAN NEVER BE IN A CULTURAL SENSE, OVER THE EXECUTIVE...
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DONALD TRUMP I THINK WOULD AGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT, PUT THE BAR IN THE MIDDLE OF IMPEACHMENT BY MENTIONING HIM ON A CALL WITH UKRAINE. WHEN HE ASKED...
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IT MIGHT BE. THE REASON I SAY IT THAT WAY IS IT IS CERTAINLY POWERFUL GROUNDS ON WHICH TO INVESTIGATE. THE HOUSE HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO PURSUE AN IMPEACHMENT...
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WHY?
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THERE MAY BE THINGS I DON'T KNOW.
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WHAT COULD BE EXCULPATORY, WHEN THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND HIS PERSONAL LAWYER HAVE BASICALLY COPPED TO EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN TESTIFIED...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
MAYBE IT IS BECAUSE OF MY TRAINING. I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT AS AN INVESTIGATOR AND A CITIZEN THAT YOU RESIST UNTIL THE LAST POSSIBLE MOMENT DRAWING...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
WHILE WE HAVE YOU HERE, LET'S GO THROUGH THE FACTS. FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WERE THE FBI DIRECTOR, WOULD YOU OPEN A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION? TRADING MILITARY...
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I MIGHT. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, BECAUSE I WOULD WANT TO TALK TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT THIS.
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WHO WOULD YOU TALK TO? BARR?
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I WOULD START WITH CAREER PEOPLE AND SEE IF THEY INSIST ON GOING UP THE CHAIN.
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FOR THAT CONVERSATION BE LIKE? GO IN EARLY BEFORE BARR GETS THERE AND, WOULD YOU MEET ME? SERIOUSLY, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE?
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I WOULD ASK MY FOLKS IN COUNTERINTELLIGENCE TO TALK TO THEIR FOLKS IN THE COUNTERESPIONAGE SECTION AND SAY TALK ABOUT THIS. WHAT FACTS DO THEY SEE, WHAT...
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WHAT KINDS OF WITNESSES WOULD YOU LOOK FOR, PEOPLE LIKE BILL TAYLOR WHO LAST WEEK TESTIFIED THAT THERE WAS A DIRECT LINE ON MILITARY AID FOR DIRT?
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SURE. AGAIN, I'M GETTING ALL THIS FROM NEWS ACCOUNTS BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE TALKING TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF YOU WERE RUNNING...
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I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WOULD LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE IT WOULD SEEM THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE RECEIVED THE MESSAGE WITH BOTH THE REACTION...
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SEEMS FAIR.
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I GET MY INFORMATION FROM NEWS ACCOUNTS, TOO. COULD YOU LAY OUT WHAT ARE THE POSSIBLE CRIMES -- AGAIN, IT IS A POLITICAL PROCESS, SO IMPEACHMENT WILL BE...
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I JUST WANT TO TAKE ISSUE WITH THE WORD CRIMES. I THINK IT IS A MISTAKE TO SAY THAT. ABUSE OF POWER. THE PRESIDENT TAKES AND TO ABIDE THE CONSTITUTION...
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DO YOU THINK THERE IS?
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MAYBE. I WANT TO INSIST I KEEP AN OPEN MIND UNTIL I SEE WHETHER THERE IS EVIDENCE WE HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT THAT CUTS THE OTHER WAY. CERTAINLY ON THE FACTS...
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LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU. THERE WAS RECENTLY A NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE -- I DON'T WANT TO SUMMARIZE IT, BUT YOU ARE STANDING IN YOUR LIVING ROOM IN THE PICTURE. YOU...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
CHANGE IN THE ADMINISTRATION? YES. I AM OPTIMISTIC THAT EVEN IF THERE IS NOT IN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO PASS JUDGMENT...
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WHAT IF HE WINS AGAIN? WILL HE -- WILL YOU STILL BELIEVE THAT?
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FROM MY NEW HOME IN NEW ZEALAND, I WILL -- [LAUGHTER] I STILL WILL BELIEVE IN AMERICA.
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I TAKE YOUR POINT ABOUT OUR VALUES. WHEN I WORKED ON REPUBLICAN CAMPAIGNS, MY CLOSEST FRIENDS WERE LIKE THE PEOPLE WITH MY JOB DEALING WITH THE SAME KNUCKLEHEADS...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I THINK THERE IS A CHANCE -- HE IS COUNTING ON WINNING AGAIN, BECAUSE HE IS COUNTING ON PROVOKING THE DEMOCRATS TO NOMINATE SOMEONE WHO WILL LEAD THE MIDDLE...
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WHY NOT YOU?
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WHY NOT ME?
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TRY TO LEAVE THE EXHAUSTED MIDDLE. THE YOUNG PEOPLE YOU TALK TO EVERY DAY.
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I HOPE TO BE PART OF ENCOURAGING THEM TO PARTICIPATE, BUT I'M NEVER GOING TO RUN FOR OFFICE. I ADMIRE -- I AM SO GRATEFUL THAT GOOD PEOPLE PARTICIPATE...
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IN THE REMAINING TIME, LET ME JUST DO A LIGHTNING ROUND OF OTHER HEADLINES. YOU HAVE SERVED IN GOVERNMENT AND TAKEN POSITIONS IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR BOSSES...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
I DON'T KNOW. I ADMIRE HIS RECORD OF SERVICE TO THE COUNTRY. I THINK ABOUT IT DIFFERENTLY THAN HE DOES. IT IS ONE OF THE REASONS I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING SINCE...
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WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO THEM? YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END OF MEAN TWEETS. YOU DO LIVE TO TELL. WHAT YOU SAY TO THESE PEOPLE -- WILL BE GOLDBERG WHAT...
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I SAW A CONGRESSPERSON FROM FLORIDA.
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A DEMOCRAT WHO HAS COME OUT WELCOME TO THE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS.
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
HE SAID SOMETHING LIKE I'M GOING TO BE STARING AT MY CHILDREN A LOT LONGER THAN THE PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM. I WOULD HOPE THAT THAT SENTIMENT WOULD ECHO IN...
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YOU HAVE BEEN HERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. HE VISITED THE LYNCHING MUSEUM. OBVIOUSLY, THIS PRESIDENTS LETTER -- RHETORIC ON RACE, IS ONE OF THE MOST FEARING...
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THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN A RADIOACTIVE STEW OF RACISM IN THE UNITED STATES. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST DISTURBING THINGS ABOUT OUR HISTORY AND YOU DON'T NEED TO...
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James B. Comey Jr.
James B. Comey Jr.
AS GOOD A PLACE AS ANY TO STOP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GLAD YOU ARE A LITTLE UNDEREMPLOYED AS I GET TO TALK TO YOU. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] [CAPTIONING PERFORMED...
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*This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.


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Former Minnesota U.S. Senator Al Franken, Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, James Comey and James Carville are among the many speakers at Politicon in Nashville, Tennessee.


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